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Wills rejects any assistance from College to poor families for dual enrollment program

Says high schools need to ask their foundations to support the poor and economically challenged families

On February 3, 2015 Yavapai Community College President Penelope Wills answered questions about post-secondary problems, which were put to here by the Blue-Ribbon Verde Valley Board Advisory Committee.  One of those questions asked whether the College would give special consideration to the poor and economically challenged families whose children wanted to take dual enrollment courses but could not afford the new fee the College intends to impose on them.

Wills’ made it clear she has little sympathy for their plight. Her bottom line solution to paying for the College credits was to have County High School Foundations, if they exist, provide for them.

poor 3 faculty member

In her response to the VVBAC question, which you can listen to in full by clicking here, she listed a number of gripes she had with the County High Schools over this program.  They included:  

  • Some High schools are irresponsibly “going wild” when asking for dual enrollment classes.
  • Some students don’t have “skin-in-the-game,” which probably means she believes they don’t take the courses seriously unless they have to pay something for them.
  • Students are “skipping” Yavapai Community College after graduation (anyone wonder why?)
  • Administrative costs have suddenly mushroomed, with her estimate being that it now costs $300,000 in administration to run the program.
  • Offers by High Schools to take over administration costs have been rejected by the College because not all High Schools have the capability of providing the data.
  • The College doesn’t get tuition from the students (even though it doesn’t provide faculty, rooms, utilities, transportation, etc.)
  • The best success for dual enrollment programs is to hold them on a college campus.

 

Wills’ says dual enrollment has suddenly become “big”

Does just released data from June, 2015 audit question or support that view?  What about 1996-2005 data?

On February 3, 2015 Dr. Penelope Wills answered questions about a variety of issues put to her by the Verde Valley Governing Board Advisory Committee.  One of them involved the dual enrollment program.  During her response, she suggested that the programs are now big and suddenly costly.

However, data just released by the auditors in a report dated June, 2015 (represented by the first chart below) seems to raise some question about the sudden growth of dual enrollment. This is particular the case since in May, 2013 the College appeared happy with a report that found it was essentially breaking even with the dual enrollment program.  The auditors used Full-time-Student-Equivalent as the marker.

Note the headcount enrollment figures beginning back in 1996 and leading up to 2006–a period without a recession.

 

dual enrollment report 2014 2015

Make you own conclusion:  Is Wills’ correct when she lays blame for the decline in student enrollment to the fact the state has moved out of the 2007-2010 recession?  What about the enrollment prior to the recession?  

 

The Wills’ priorities: Buildings, buildings, buildings. Not education

Wills places too low of a priority on education of students within the County; assessing dual enrollment fee on High School Juniors and Seniors her latest educational sin–it’s time for a new president

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Commentary

Yavapai Community College President Penelope Wills places education of Yavapai County students far too low on her list of priorities. At the top of her educational agenda are buildings, buildings, building, despite a 5,000 drop in student enrollment, which is continuing under her presidency.

Think about it:  She is anticipating spending $119 million on new building projects while student enrollment at the College continues to plumet.  And look at some of the projects.

She spent thousands of dollars in 2014 to build a concrete patio seating facility into the bank of a hill overlooking the College ballpark.  Critics say it was a complete waste of money since few use it (there are bleachers around the field).  She has also spent millions of dollar converting the 1105 student auditorium into a dinner theatre.  No additional seating; only amenities with no added educational value.

She spent over $1 million dollars to build a professional tennis complex where there is no College tennis team.  The Prescott Campus swimming pool and therapy pools are carefully groomed although the College has no swim team.

Building projects that waste money

Her latest assault on education is her determination to force Yavapai High Schools to pay at least $10 per credit for taking dual enrollment classes at the high school.  That fee will be assessed beginning this fall. The dual enrollment classes provide qualified Junior and senior high school students with an opportunity to earn a limited number of college credits while still in high school. High schools provide transportation, classrooms, heat, light, air conditioning, qualified instructors, high tech equipment, counselling and maintenance.  The College provides minimal administrative support and a tiny stipend per high school teacher.   The cost per student will now be at least $30 and will no doubt go up each year once it is in place.

How high schools will pay the fee is unclear.  For many students, especially in rural areas, the dual enrollment program is the only opportunity they will have to take college courses.  For some, who are poor, the fee will mean that they will not be able to take the college courses. Some high school districts, such das Camp Verde, will most likely drop the program.  The district simply cannot afford to pay the fee. 

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Verde Valley Governing Board Advisory Committee opposes dual enrollment fee

College ignores Superintendents and Advisory Committee made up of citizens from throughout the Valley

paul e Chavelier addressing governing boardThe Chair of the Verde Valley Board Advisory Committee, Mr. Paul Chevalier, reported to the District Governing Board at its January 12 meeting that all seven of the representatives on the Advisory Committee recommended no fee be assessed to high school students in the dual enrollment program. 

He also pointed out that the imposition of a fee on high school students was opposed by all eight Verde Valley superintendents.  (The College ignored the request during the meeting with the Wills’ Administration urging imposition of a $10 per credit fee on each student in the program beginning in the fall, 2016.)

You may view Mr. Chevalier’s statement to the Governing Board by clicking here.

Mingus Union Superintendent fights dual enrollment fee increase

Says dual enrollment fee may inhibit sustainability of dual enrollment program

Mingus Union High School Superintendent, Dr. Paul Tighe, speaking to the Governing Board at its January 12, meeting, opposed any fee being placed on the dual enrollment programs by the College.  He stated that the expenses for the dual enrollment program are almost “entirely” born by the school districts. 

PAUL TIGHE

Dr. Tighe addressing the Board

He pointed out that the High Schools pay the teachers, provide the space, desks, textbooks, and transportation.  “The prospect of adding a fee directly to the students for what appear to be administrative and support expenses is of concern,”  he said.

He also pointed out that the fee would “be a barrier for the opportunity of students” to take college credit classes.  He said that he and the Verde Valley superintendents would “hate to see that happen.”

Dr. Tighe explained that last year there were 1,361 college credits obtained by high school students in the dual enrollment programs in Mingus Union High School alone.   This is roughly $115,000 savings to the taxpayers in the district, he said.

He asked that the Administration reconsider passing on any fees to the high schools in the dual enrollment program. {The administration rejected his suggestion during the meeting by insisting on a $10 per credit fee be added beginning the fall of 2016.}

Superintendent Tighe’s brief statement to the District Governing Board may be viewed in full by clicking here.

Redrock Editorial says Dual Enrollment fee a grab for money

“Another way [to] squeeze every dime from the Verde Valley while giving us little to nothing in return.”

Christopher Fox Graham

Christoper Fox Graham

In an editorial in the Redrock News of January 13, 2016 the managing editor, Christopher Fox Graham, lamented the Community College decision to charge Yavapai County high schools for operating dual enrollment programs.  Graham wrote that the fees were  “another way for Yavapai College to squeeze every dime from the Verde Valley while giving us little to nothing in return.”  He charged that President Penelope Wills’ claim, which was made during a tour of Verde Valley towns and cities some months ago, that she wanted to “assist our communities” was a farce.

Graham also charged that President Wills’ is “lining the pockets of the Prescott area college without any added benefit to our communities. Now Wills has gone from ignoring the Verde Valley to doing the opposite of taxpayers’ desires.”

He suggested that “If the college doesn’t repeal this fee structure, it would make more sense for Verde Valley school districts to simply cut ties with Yavapai College and instead partner with Northern Arizona University or the University of Arizona for their dual enrollment classes. NAU and the U of A would love to start building relationships with our students and dual enrollment is the best way to start.”

You may read the entire editorial by clicking here

Should Yavapai College adequately compensate County High Schools for teaching its courses?

County High School teachers are doing the College’s job in dual enrollment classes

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Commentary

Is it time for high schools in Yavapai County to be adequately compensated for teaching community college dual enrollment courses for Yavapai Community College? A dual enrollment course is taught by highly qualified high school teachers to qualified students in high schools throughout the County.  Students in a dual enrollment course simultaneously obtain both high school and college credit for their work in the course.  Dual enrollment is allowed by state law and has been growing in acceptance for a decade. Most of the costs associated with dual enrollment courses are absorbed by the high schools with only a minimal financial help from Yavapai College.

DUAL ENROLLMENT HIGH SCHOOL CONTRIBUTIONS

  1. First, the high schools act as a marketing arm for Yavapai College.  Through these courses, Yavapai College has direct and almost exclusive personal contact with high school students in the County.  This is an unparalleled recruiting opportunity for Yavapai College.
  2. Second, the high schools bear the cost of searching out and providing qualified teachers for the dual enrollment courses. Not just any high school teacher may teach them.  The College sets the requirements for a teacher but plays no other significant role in hiring and retaining qualified teaching staff at high schools. 
  3. Third, dual enrollment courses require oversight by County High School administrators. The oversight is provided free to Yavapai College.
  4. Fourth, the College pays nothing to rent space from the high schools for the dual enrollment courses such as English. This cost is completely absorbed by the high schools.
  5. Fifth, the College does not pay for utilities such as heat, light, and air conditioning of classrooms.
  6. Sixth, the College does not pay for installation, maintenance and use of classroom technology.
  7. Seventh, the College encounters no cost for desks, chairs, whiteboards, etc. used to teach the dual enrollment courses.
  8. Eighth, the College encounters no maintenance costs associated with the classrooms used to teach dual enrollment classes.
  9. Ninth, the High Schools provide free counseling related to dual enrollment courses.
  10. Tenth, the dual enrollment courses are provided without additional charge to all qualified high school students, i.e., the students via their parents have already paid for them in their support of the high schools and the Community College through their property taxes.  

While County high schools are constantly struggling to make ends meet, the Community College is awash with money from County taxpayers. It reported in December a $25 million dollar reserve; millions above Governing Board requirements.  It receives from $43 to $45 million each year in property tax revenue from County taxpayers.  Measured by a per full-time student equivalent, this is double the average of other community colleges in Arizona. It receives a state stipend that goes toward any costs it might incur in the dual enrollment program. It raises tuition and property tax rates at its discretion; something completely foreign to high schools.

Given the huge revenue surplus enjoyed by Yavapai Community College, and its constant property tax revenue stream, it seems to me it is time that it begin paying the County High Schools an adequate stipend to compensate them for providing fully accredited post-secondary college courses to County students.  After all, the high schools are doing the job that most think should be the College’s responsibility.

 

College ignores Verde Valley citizens and superintendents in Dual Enrollment fee fight

Arrogance and disrespect for Verde Valley views hallmark of Prescott Administration’s decision to charge high school students fees in dual enrollment classes

The Penelope Wills’ administration announced at the December 8, 2015 Governing Board meeting that it was moving ahead on charging each high school student who takes a dual enrollment class at a high school in Yavapai County at least a $10 per credit fee. In doing so, the decision  reflects an unparalleled level of arrogance and disrespect for citizen concerns about the cost of  education  in the Verde Valley. 

dual enrollment discussion two at dec 8 bd meeting

HIDING FACTS? 

Scott Farnsworth, the interim Vice President of Instruction and Student Development made the fee announcement to the Governing Board.   He told the Board that “we’ve had conversations with principals and superintendents both, and looking at all the varying differences that are out there, we’ve asked in moving forward for a ten dollar per credit hour charge for dual enrollment classes.” He went on to say that “most of the superintendents and high school principals we visited with about this recognize where we are and that there are costs associated with dual enrollment.”  (You may view his entire dual enrollment presentation to the Board by clicking here.)

What he did not tell the Board is that: 

All 8 Verde Valley superintendents opposed the College assessing a fee on high school students in dual enrollment classes.  (A letter opposing the fee signed by them is included at the end of this story.)

He also did not tell the Board that:

The Verde Valley Board Advisory Committee, consisting of citizens from throughout the Verde Valley, unanimously opposed setting a fee for dual enrollment students. (A letter signed by them opposing the fee is included at the end of this story.)

When Representative Deb McCasland raised a question about the letter signed by the 8 superintendents opposing the fee increase, the Board lawyer ruled her question out of order.

Farnsworth attacks student motives.   

It is a fact that no serious study of dual enrollment in the County has been undertaken.  Yet, without an analytical basis to support his views, Farnsworth attacked the motives of many students who take dual enrollment classes. He stated  that “students will take a class

not because they are particularly interested in it, or that they need it, it’s because their friend is taking it, or they heard it was kind of fun, or it’s an opportunity for them to kinda get out of the normal classroom day.”

Farnsworth suggests only money will bring students to their senses.

Despite the absence of a study of dual enrollment and its pros and cons in the County, Farnsworth plowed ahead giving his unsupported view that “the minimal amount that we are asking, ah,  

is gonna to provide a little bit of skin in the game for these students and their families. That they recognized that once they start, ah a college education, that it becomes a part of the permanent record.”   

In an interview given to the Verde Independent, Farnsworth elaborated on his view for the need to pay for high school dual enrollment saying that:  “There’s that old adage that if you don’t pay for something, then you don’t value it, so we want students to recognize that, hey, this is a college education, there’s some worth to that.”  Apparently, if this view is applied across the board to education, without “skin in the game”  students won’t take their education seriously.  Umm–think about it.

Unelected College bureaucrat may impose fees (tuition)  on public schools without citizen or Board approval

In a demonstration of arrogance and total independence from what citizens in the County may think about public education,  Dr. Penelope Wills stated during her interview with the Verde Independent that imposing a fee on students in public high schools is completely at her discretion—neither the board nor citizens can do anything to stop her.  The reporter wrote that she said the new dual enrollment fee  “does not need to be voted on and approved by the DGB to take effect.”  She also stated to the reporter that the matter is “being handled internally.” You may view the entire story in the Verde Independent by clicking here.

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College continues to seek fees for high school dual enrollment programs

Wills’ administration’s insatiable appetite for revenue driving College to demand a $10 per credit fee; Trust issues arise from disparity in information

By now, everyone knows that the Dr. Penelope Wills’ administration has an insatiable appetite for more and more money to finance building projects in Prescott without interference from County residents. For example, in February, 2015 the Wills’ administration persuaded the West voting block to approve a tuition increase despite slipping enrollment (3-2 with Sedona/Verde Valley representatives voting against increase).  In June, 2015 the administration sought and obtained approval from the District Governing Board to increase property taxes (3-2 with Sedona/Verde Valley representatives voting against increase).

GREEDDuring a meeting of Sedona/Verde Valley high school superintendents’ last week, interim College Vice President of Instruction and Student Development Scott Farnsworth indicated the College was demanding a $10 per credit fee per student for allowing the high school dual enrollment program to continue.  This was met with opposition from the superintendents who explained that the high schools are currently struggling to survive under the strain of enormous educational funding cuts by the State. The superintendents  were apparently given one-year to decide whether they would go along with the College’s demands.

In an earlier letter sent to the superintendents, the College stated that if the schools paid the per credit per student $10 fee, it “would not award any scholarships.” This appears to be a  kind of punishment for not agreeing to a larger fee to be assessed of $25 per credit per student.

Trust issues:  The figures provided the superintendents raise fundamental issues of trust.  County-wide, the College claimed in a recent letter to the superintendents it is spending $82,000 in stipends for the dozens of high school teachers who are teaching dual enrollment classes.  This figure is in sharp contrast to the presentation made in May, 2013 to the College Governing Board where the College stated that “High school Dual Enrollment a stipend, this year total stipend – $57,750.”  Click here for the May, 2013 agenda where you will find the $57,750 figure, page 94).

Since the May, 2013 detailed report to the Governing Board, the College has come up with new figures that add over a quarter million dollars in costs to the program.  Even if true, it is not even a blip on the radar of the $84 million total annual College budget.

The College also claimed in its recent letter to the superintendents that that it receives “Reimbursement from the state – $37,000.”  However, in May, 2013 it reported to the District Governing Board that “FTSE reimbursement [from the State] for Dual Enrollment resulted in $63,777.00.” Click here for the May, 2013 agenda, page 94).  Because of the wide disparity in these figures, an issue of trust is obviously raised.

If the fee is imposed by the College, High schools, such as the Camp Verde District will be forced to pay out about $10,000 annually.  Something its superintendent states it cannot afford.  The V’ACT superintendent reports it may cost a single student taking a CTE course at a high school in the Valley as much as $150 in an additional fees to complete. 

The College ignores the fact that taxpayers are already providing a huge subsidy to the Community College—about $44 million annually in primary property tax revenue and it is spending it on such projects as a professional tennis court–it has no tennis team.

Huge high school contribution. The College also ignores the fact that high schools provide the College without cost the following: (1) Classroom space, (2) heat/air conditioning, electricity, (3) desks, (4) technology, and (5) a qualified teacher, (6) tutoring, (7) counseling and (8) transportation.  In addition, courses are taught by college certified high school instructors using the college curriculum and text. Students learn and adapt to the rigors of college course work while in a familiar setting. Students learn skills and behaviors that will aid them in college. Having taken college courses will ease students’ fears about college. The challenging courses enhance high level thinking skills and provide incentive to advance beyond the high school level. Transition from high school to college begins early and occurs conveniently in a familiar, comfortable environment.

Frankly, the dual enrollment program, where the College provides a $500 stipend to a high school teacher for teaching the College course, should be a fertile recruiting ground for the College. 

 

Blog responds to Verde Independent Dual Enrollment editorial

Verde Independent dual enrollment editorial light on facts

On August 1 the editor of the Verde Independent wrote a commentary on the editorial page lauding Yavapai College for its dual enrollment program in the Verde Valley.  (Click here to read the commentary by editor Dan Engler.)  So that readers received more accurate information about the program and the contributions by the high schools in the program, Blog editor Bob Oliphant sent the Independent a response. The following is the response to Mr. Engler’s commentary.

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Dear Editor:
I found your August 2, 2015 editorial, “College’s dual enrollment program hardly an example of not caring about the Verde Valley” short on facts and disingenuous in content. It read like a script you might have been handed by Dr. Penelope Wills during her recent visit to your office.

First, you state that “fiscal wisdom of this business model is suspect.” Since when has post-secondary education been relegated to a “business model” rather than an educational model? Those of us fighting for decent post-secondary opportunities for residents of the Verde Valley firmly believe that educational opportunities are not to be sacrificed on the alter of some cockeyed and wasteful business model dreamed up by the Prescott administrators. We actually believe in education!

Second, the dual enrollment program is offered to all high schools in Yavapai County; not just the Verde Valley as your editorial implies. It is not some kind of a gift to the Verde Valley because the Prescott bureaucrats care about students over here. It is a part of existing state law and a county-wide project.

Third, you failed to tell your readers that the College administrators are circulating a proposal to Yavapai County High School superintendents in which they propose to lay a tax on the already cash strapped high schools for students who are participating in the Dual Enrollment program. According to the letter, they propose a tax on each student credit that ranges from $10 to $25 per credit.

The Prescott administrators, who have an insatiable appetite for revenue to drive programs on the West side of the County surmise, without supporting data,  that dual enrollment is cutting into their profit margin. By imposing this tax on student credits, they believe it will generate more revenue so they can invest into such noneducational projects as a $1.3 million tennis court, which was built primarily for the City of Prescott (the College has no tennis team). Or, waste $5 million dollars on renovating a decent college auditorium on the Prescott campus so it could become an 1105 seat dinner theatre for the residents of Prescott.

Or, maybe the proposed tax on credits will kill off the growing dual enrollment program because our high schools cannot afford it. Is that caring for the Verde Valley? Hardly.

Fourth, you also failed to explain to your readers what the high schools are providing to the dual enrollment program at no additional cost to taxpayers or the College. The high schools provide classroom space, heat/air conditioning, and electricity without cost to the College. They also provide desks, technology, and a qualified teacher to teach the dual enrollment class to qualified students. The high school teacher receives only a few hundred dollars for teaching a college level course from the College. The dual enrollment program results in a savings to County taxpayers of hundreds of thousands of dollars!

Your editorial should have been thanking the high school superintendents and faculty for agreeing to provide this opportunity—not the college.
The College, which receives state funding for a portion of the dual enrollment program, says it is losing revenue on the project. The loss they claim is about $300,000 a year. Those of us in the Verde Valley who pay around $16 million dollars a year in property taxes to the College, a large portion of it going to noneducational or limited educational projects on the West side of the County, believe that even if the $300,000 is a true and accurate estimate, it is peanuts when compared to the enormous savings to taxpayers and the enormous benefits received by the residents of the County. Certainly our $16 million is sufficient to subsidize $300,000 of the dual enrollment program it allegedly costs the College.

Dual enrollment is skyrocketing in the County. However, all the current crop of Prescott based College administrators can see is an opportunity to add more revenue to the College coffers to finance their wasteful spending. That’s not caring about the Verde Valley. That’s not caring about the County. That’s not caring about real education.

Bob Oliphant
Cottonwood